Irenic Thoughts

Irenic. The word means peaceful. This web log (or blog) exists to create an ongoing, and hopefully peaceful, series of comments on the life of King of Peace Episcopal Church. This is not a closed community. You are highly encouraged to comment on any post or to send your own posts.


YouTube roundup

Some serious(ish) videos this time:

Father Steve is tring to help us get off the fence at St. Micahel's in a thought-provoking short film.

Father Matthew presents a fascinating art history piece from his trip to Italy—Jesus' life shown through the mosaics in Ravenna, completed in the 500s. The pictures of his life and miracles feature a beardless Jesus, while the scenes of his passion show Jesus with a beard, but Jesus is the one with the moasaic halo. There is also his last film from St. Paul's.

This is a serious short showing a woman quite upset over an Anglican Vicar drinking beer at sidewalk cafe. She goes to his group and gives them tracts as she is concerned for their souls. I see the scene and don't see good guys vs. bad guys and can make neither the person concerned for their souls, nor the beer drinking vicar into the bad guy here. Where do you find God in this scene?

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  • At 9/24/2007 1:49 PM, Blogger jimmorrow said…

    What is the relationship of a vicar, curate, rector, and/or priest to a local church?

  • At 9/24/2007 3:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I believe God is with the vicar and his friends drinking a beer. I believe God is with the person who tends the flowers at the church. I believe God is with the church's congregation and with the people on the streets, and especially the sinners.

    This woman in the video needs to do some soul searching instead of judging everyone around her so harshly. How rude to call the vicar's collar a "dog collar". How rude to judge a congregation from the outward appearance of a church. And, if this woman goes back to drinking wine, she has nobody to blame but herself.

    She's too full of herself and her self rightousness to have any room for God. If Jesus walked down the street I bet he would sit down and have a beer with the "sinners" or stop and smell the flowers in the church garden. I doubt he would be standing in the middle of the street judging and condemning like the woman in this video.

  • At 9/24/2007 3:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    First of all, from someone who claims to be a former Anglican, I can't believe she didn't recognize the shirt of a bishop. Bishops wear purple shirts while rectors, vicars and curates (all who are also priests) wear other colors, particularly black.

    God IS with every one; particularly with the sinners who need him the most. And while the woman was so busy quoting scripture, she somehow missed, "Judge not lest ye be judged."

    But as one of the favorite prayers at King of Peace goes, "Bless her, change me."

  • At 9/24/2007 4:06 PM, Blogger King of Peace said…

    Nice old Anglican terms. They are used to denote the following:

    Rector-the chief sacramental officer of a parish, called by the vestry (church board) with the agreement of the Bishop. Other clergy work not for the church, but for the rector and, for example, are expected to leave when the rector leaves.

    Vicar-the priest in charge of a mission, which denotes a congregation financially dependent on the diocese. The Bishop is technically the rector of all missions and a vicar serves vicariously in place of the bishop.

    Curate-once referred to a person charged with the cure (care) of souls in a parish. This term dates from a time when a rector would not necessarily be at their parish each week (see Pride and Prejudice). Now "curate" refers to an assistabt in a parish and generally applies to new hires out of seminary.

    King of Peace is a mission of the Diocese of Georgia. We are fully self supporting and have to be so for one year before applying to change to parish status, which takes two consecutive diocesan conventions to ensure that we remain able to be self supporting. Therefore, my official job title is Vicar and will remain such until February of 2009.

    the Rev. Frank Logue, Vicar
    though not in my dog collar today as I take Mondays off except for when my email sends me a question from Jim. ;-)

  • At 9/24/2007 6:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    While this dear lady is out trying to convert others to her way of thinking, she is in danger of estrangement from her husband and son. And who is this guy she is hanging out with? Is she spending more time with him than with her husband?

  • At 9/25/2007 1:29 AM, Anonymous denise ::) said…

    I'd rather see Our Vicar on a street corner having a beer, than holed up inside the church or his house hiding it. I've seen Our Vicar have a glass of wine in public, and other than my significant memory skills, I didn't have another thought about it until I saw the video just now. Like the others said, I think she might want to go back to her bible and see who to leave the judgment up to. Every time you point your finger, you've always got 3 pointing right back at you...something to think about!

  • At 9/25/2007 2:27 AM, Anonymous denise said…

    Yours and Victoria's e-mails appear to be bouncing back to me. Weiiiirrrd. I'd forward you the email message, but well isn't that silly? If ya need it, gimme a call.

  • At 9/25/2007 11:15 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Gosh.... what next... hanging out with publicans and sinners? Turning water into wine? Surely God wouldn't be caught dead doing such things. And as for that biblical text about 'considering the lillies of the field'... well obviously it's a bad witness to put flowers outside a church. I mean.. what can creation teach anybody? Give them a tract and a God they can explain.


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