Irenic Thoughts

Irenic. The word means peaceful. This web log (or blog) exists to create an ongoing, and hopefully peaceful, series of comments on the life of King of Peace Episcopal Church. This is not a closed community. You are highly encouraged to comment on any post or to send your own posts.


YouTube Sacraments

On his YouTube Channel, Father Matthew is working on an entertaining and educational series on the sacraments. So far he has covered:


Reconciliation (private confession)


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  • At 2/18/2008 9:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Baptism: Are the shells symbolic? I've noticed the shell at KOP too used during Baptism.

  • At 2/18/2008 11:17 AM, Blogger King of Peace said…

    Yes, shells are a symbol of baptism. Early Christian art showed John the baptist baptizing Jesus by pouring water over him as he stood in the Jordan using a shell. This goes back to the catacombs and so is quite ancient. However, the why is hazy. It seems to have been an early artistic rendering of the scene that then effected practice, so that shells were used in pouring over the water. Or more likely, clergy had come to use shells and this was interjected back into the scene at the Jordan. Shells as a reminder of baptism are why we have shell stepping stones at King of Peace leading from the parking lot to the front door of The Preschool.

  • At 2/18/2008 11:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Thank you, Father Frank! I'm glad to know this. :)

    Another question while I'm thinking of it (and this has nothing to do with Sacraments): Why do some churches use Amen pronounced AHHHmen and some say it with the long A?

  • At 2/18/2008 3:53 PM, Blogger King of Peace said…

    No matter how one says it, Amen is an assent to all that has come before. It's a you say po-tay-toe I say po-tah-toe sort of difference, but I too have noticed it tends to fall out along church lines and have heard long A in the amen as being more Catholic, but don't know that to be true.

    I don't have a dog in this fight and say either. It's not like the how to say pecan debate about which I have strong feelings.


  • At 2/18/2008 4:28 PM, OpenID jimmorrow said…

    It's not like the how to say pecan debate about which I have strong feelings.

    It's "pee-can." Wow. That looks strange in writing.

    ..not "peh-cahn."

  • At 2/18/2008 4:29 PM, OpenID jimmorrow said…

    ...and this is why we have standardized phonetic pronunciation notation:

    [pi-kahn, -kan, pee-kan],

  • At 2/18/2008 5:20 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ahhhhhhmen to pee-cans and Ayyymen to peh-cahns!

    Thanks! I got more than I bargained for today!:)

  • At 2/22/2008 10:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    pi-cahns are 8 dollars a bag at the store.

    pee-cans are the ones you pick up in your Mama's yard.


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