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11/17/2008

Good for Goodness Sake

Have you heard how the American Humanist Association is getting multimillion dollars worth of free advertising through its $40,000 ad campaign? The group plunkied down its money to create a series of ads on buses in Washington D.C. and those ads are getting a lot of press coverage. The basic message is,
Why believe in a god? Just be good for goodness sake.
CNN carries the story as Group's New Christmas Message: Be good not godly and at Fox News it is 'Why Believe in a God?' Ad Campaign Launches on D.C. Buses.

Of course the answer to why believe in a god is different for me than for those who created the ads. I believe not in a god, but in God, because I have come to know God through his son Jesus Christ and by the power of the Holy Spirit I have an ongoing relationship which I cannot deny. That is my experience of reality and I know the humanist are trying to respectfully disagree while encouraging like-minded atheists to make their lack of faith in a god public, in a kinder, gentler way than some angry atheists.

The basic idea of being good for goodness sake is wonderful. I know for a fact that many people don't believe in a god but live good lives—from miltantly anti-religion atheists to those who don't believe in a god but aren't angry about it, to those who as agnostics admit that they don't know. Yes, you can be a basically good person without belief in God. I know this goes against classic Calvinist teaching that says that we are morally depraved and can do no good without God. But scripture teaches that all creation was very good. Yes, humans messed up and through our own free will we created a lot of pain and suffering for ourselves and others. But we were created for goodness and I think that imprint within us comes from God. So, I agree with the Calvinists that we can't do it without God, but disagree in that I think that the Humanists were also created in God's image and God is speaking to their hearts as well even if they don't always hear it or know the source.

The common creed found across many cultures that we call the Golden Rule may be what the humanist are aiming at, treating others as you want to be treated. (see sermon on The Golden Rule for more on this). They would say you don't have to do that because a big mean God is ready to smite you upside the head if you don't. You can be good because you want to be good. I agree. I too feel that we don't have to be good out of fear of a vengeful God.

Here is where I part company with the Humanists. They think we can be good without God. I don't think we would even know what good is without God. God created us with laws written on the tablets of our hearts so that we know that murder is wrong and stealing is wrong. No, we aren't born with a detailed legal code imprinted within us, but we do know something about right and wrong even before culture begins to imprint its own take on morality. I think this comes from God. Even the Humanist ideals of what is right and wrong are, I believe, from God.

And yes, we can attempt the good without God and we can get it kinda close, sometimes better than others. But that is pretty tough to do. I also know that all of us do fall short of the mark set for us by God and that with God's help we can come closer. It is God's spirit bearing witness to our spirits that help us to see the good. Without that relationship with God that animates our moral compass, it would be easier to be diverted to greed or anger or lust. But we will the good to please the God we love who wants what is best for us and we are thus empowered further to live into God's will, which reflects the goodness which is God's nature.

That's my top-of-the-head reaction that captures something of what I see in being good for goodness sake. What's your take on this? Can we be good without God?

peace,
Frank+
The Rev. Frank Logue, Pastor

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  • At 11/21/2008 8:21 AM, Blogger Valiance Weaver said…

    Its very possible indeed to be as good as you can be. Man will form organizations based on a code of order and honor. The problem where we will fall short is that this humanly goodness is and never will be constant. Social kindness and goodness done for and by a man's own desires can change based on how that person is feeling. Or lets say that said guy does good deeds in view of the people, but these good deeds he does is all a rouse to secure him a better social standing, not for genuine care for these deeds or the people. Without God, you only look at the outside of this "humanly goodness" and take it at face value. We are creatures of perception, and some very bad hombres in history have gained power by these 'humanly good' deeds. You may ask a question when one particular person in your life is being kind or does a favor for you " What does he/she want from me for this kindness?" Thats the problem, we can be good without God, but our goodness on our own time is taxed, conditional, and finite fundamentally, like a bowl of ice cream sitting in the sun. The intent of ice cream is very sweet and nice, but left exposed turns into warm sloppy syrup. But with God, kindess isnt a fasion statement, or something to do because your afraid of people not liking you. Its funny but sometimes the most Godly types of good come to going against the grain of man's structure. In ways its inhuman to be good all the time, and it is! Having God to lead us our capacity to be kind or good increases, and think about it God calls us to be good to everyone, not just members of the club, or people of social order, and when we run out of steam or feel like we are "all out of love" God will actually give us opportunities to show us we are far from being all out. So yes we can be good but how many stipulations and strings are attached to our own good? For our own ends what would being good look like the next morning?

     

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