Irenic Thoughts

Irenic. The word means peaceful. This web log (or blog) exists to create an ongoing, and hopefully peaceful, series of comments on the life of King of Peace Episcopal Church. This is not a closed community. You are highly encouraged to comment on any post or to send your own posts.

10/22/2008

Forcing priests to wear robes

The Telegraph reports on one British theologian, the Rev. Andrew Atherstone, who says that traditional vestments in worship are a hindrance rather than a help,
Garments such as the cassock and surplice are a form of "power dressing" which reinforce class divisions and prevent the wearer getting the Lord's message across.
The article is based on the publication of a report titled "Clergy Robes and Mission Priorities" which seeks to challenge canon laws (church rules) which date back in England to 1604. Atherstone goes on to say,
old King of Peace photo, yes that's GriffinThe existing law, which makes robes obligatory for all, belongs to a bygone world. In the 21st century Anglican ministers must at last be given the freedom to decide their own clothing, in consultation with their congregations, based on their local setting.
He also says that "robes can be a form of power dressing—they can reinforce the divisions of a stratified society, where deference to rank and authority is key."

Church of the SpiritWe do have that flexibility in The Episcopal Church. Church of the Spirit (pictured at left), a church I helped plant while in seminary, does not use vestments in worship for their main Sunday service for the very sort of reasons Atherstone points out. I have a friend from seminary, Jimmy Bartz, whose new church start, St. Thad's is an Episcopal Church with a a laid back feel that meets at The Jazz Bakery in Culver City, California. Their website notes,
Sunday mornings at Thad’s are very informal. We wear clothes that we are comfortable in, we play music that we like, we do our best to create a place that people feel welcome and at home.
Worship at King of PeaceBy design, King of Peace is informal, but does have ways of worshipping that seem very formal compared to my Pentecostal upbringing. Yes, the clothes we wear in leading worship are different from our day-to-day wear. That helps show outwardly, what we know inwardly, that we are entering holy space for a holy task. The various vestments are for the various roles in the service. When I am not the celebrant, I don't wear the celebrants vestments or sit in the presider's chair. I see this as more about worshipping decently and in good order than visble signs of an archaic hierarchy.

St. Thad'sI know that St. Thad's is entering holy space for a holy time in their own way and I am not knocking their practice, which fits their setting and the group they are hoping to gather as they grow. This means that both King of Peace and St. Thad's are now living into the sort of future Atherstone pictures in the report. We already have the flexibility to tailor the clothes to fit the Church, rather than being straightjacketed by canon law. It does make sense to leave room for church's to select ways of worshipping that feel worshipful to the gathered community. That's my take. What do you think?

peace,
Frank+
The Rev. Frank Logue, Pastor

PS: Though I am still away at a meeting in New Orleans, we will have worship tonight at King of Peace. The Rev. John Pearce, who is serving St. Mark's in Woodbine, will be the celebrant and preacher and I bet he'll wear robes. The service is at 6:15 p.m. No Bible study follows this week, we will pick up with Mark 13 next Wednesday at 7 p.m.

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  • At 10/31/2008 9:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I think the dress is cool, since the guy in it isn't stiffnecked like his collar. And ya, I don't care what its "traditional" name is, its a dress.

     

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8/03/2008

Worship Prayer

Holy God—in this precious hour, we pause and gather to hear your word– to do so, we break from our work responsibilities and from our play fantasies; we move from our fears that overwhelm and from our ambitions that are too strong, Free us in these moments from every distraction, that we may focus to listen, that we may hear, that we may change. Amen
—Walter Brueggemann, from Awed to Heaven, Rooted in Earth

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4/27/2008

Worship

Happy are those who hear
the joyful call to worship,
for they will walk
in the light of your presence, LORD.
—Psalms 89:15

But the time is coming and is already here
when true worshipers will worship the Father
in spirit and in truth.
The Father is looking for anyone
who will worship him that way.
—Jesus in John 4:23 (New Living Translation)

No one else holds or has held
the place in the heart of the world which Jesus holds.
Other gods have been as devoutly worshipped;
no other man has been so devoutly loved.
—John Knox (1510-1572)

I never knew how to worship until I knew how to love.
—Henry Ward Beecher (1813-1887)

Jesus calls us from the worship,
Of the vain world's golden store,
From each idol that would keep us,
Saying, "Christian, love Me more!"
-Cecil F. Alexander (1818-1895)

The highest form of worship
is the worship of unselfish Christian service.
—Billy Graham (1918- )

Some go to church to see and be seen,
Some go there to say they have been,
Some go there to sleep and nod,
But few go there to worship God
—Anonymous

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2/10/2008

Silence!

We are commanded to stop (literally)... rest, relax, let go, and make time for Him. The scene is one of stillness and quietness, listening and waiting before Him. Such foreign business in these busy times!

Nevertheless, knowing God deeply and intimately requires such discipline. Silence is indispensable if we hope to add depth to our spiritual life.
-Chuck Swindoll

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12/30/2007

They should lash us to our pews


Why do people in church seem like cheerful, brainless tourists on a packaged tour of the Absolute?...Does anyone have the foggiest idea what sort of power we blithely invoke? Or, as I suspect, does no one believe a word of it?

The churches are children playing on the floor with their chemistry sets, mixing up a batch of TNT to kill a Sunday morning. It is madness to wear ladies’ straw hats and velvet hats to church; we should all be wearing crash helmets. Ushers should issue life preservers and signal flares; they should lash us to our pews. For the sleeping god may wake someday and take offense, or the waking god may draw us to where we can never return.
Annie Dillard, (1945 - ) from her book Teaching a Stone to Talk: Expeditions and Encounters

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  • At 12/30/2007 2:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    We don't have pews...

    :)

     
  • At 12/30/2007 3:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The God of Abraham is not aiming to make our life as pleasant as possible. He is here to turn tables and create people who can run with Him. "If you have run with the footmen, and they have wearied you, then how can you contend with horses?" (Jer. 12:5). He wants a people like horses, people whose necks are clothed with thunder, mock at fear, and do not stop at the sound of the trumpet.

    I think Annie Dillard new that we sometimes forget that our God is unpredictable. That we must be like him. We should fear Him, for He IS the beginning and the end.

     
  • At 12/31/2007 8:56 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Should we fear God, or is he Abba?
    God's aim may not be to make our lives as pleasant as possible, but I don't think it is to make us as miserable as possible either.

    Annie Dillard suggests that we should recognize that the ONE in our presence is all powerful and we need to respect that. We, as children, simply cannot comprehend all that He is.

    Like in the sermon yesterday, Annie Dillard is trying to describe "a cup of coffee."

     
  • At 12/31/2007 10:10 AM, Blogger King of Peace said…

    The describe a cup of coffee reference in the comment above refers to yesterday's sermon found online here Beyond Words.

     

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11/04/2007

Citizens of Heaven

Baptism as citizenship papersWe are not citizens of this world trying to make our way to heaven; we are citizens of heaven trying to make our way through this world. Tha radical Christian insight can be life-changing. We are not to live so as to earn God’s love, inherit heaven, and purchase our salvation. All those are given to us as gifts; gifts bought by Jesus on the cross and handed over to you.

We are to live as God’s redeemed, as heirs of heaven, and as citizens of another land: the Kingdom of God. We live as though we are on a journey home: a home we know will have the lights on and the door open and our Father waiting for us when we arrive. That means in all adversity our worship of God is joyful, our life is hopeful, our future is secure. There is nothing we can lose on earth that can rob us of the treasures God has given and will give us.
—The Landisfarne (via the Anglican Digest)

In the archives, is the sermon Citizen Paul.

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10/25/2007

Transcendence


Transcendence refers to things that lie beyond the ordinary range of perception or are beyond human experience, at least in any usual sense. At its best, a worship service is transcendent in that it speaks directly to the heart in ways beyonds words. Garrison Keillor wrote of this in a recent essay on the experience of an Anglo-catholic high mass that he attended with a small congregation:
It was formal high Mass, none of that "hi and how are we all doing this morning" chumminess, and the homily only summarized the scripture texts about healing, it didn't turn into an essay on healthcare. Ten voices strong and true in the choir and positioned as they were under the great arch of the chancel, their tender polyphonic Kyrie and Gloria infused the whole building with pure kindness.

The singing was O my God just heartbreakingly good. There were less than 30 of us in the pews, fewer than the names on the prayer list, and to hear "Behold, how good and joyful it is; brethren, to dwell together in unity" sung so eloquently as the priests swung to their tasks was to be present in a moment of extravagant grace that does not depend on numbers or any other measure of success for its meaning, just as the Grand Canyon does not depend on busloads of tourists to be magnificent. Most of our brethren, bless them, are off enjoying brunch or reading the funnies or lifting weights at the gym, and our faithfulness does not make us better people. We simply happened to walk by and see this vast canyon of God's love and stand looking into it....

But here in an old brownstone church at an ancient ceremony, there is a moment of separation from all the griefs of this world. Ten men and women are singing a cappella, "Bless the Lord, O my soul, and all that is within me bless his holy name," and their voices drench us fugitive worshippers kneeling, naked, trembling, needy, in the knowledge of grace, and when we arise and go out into Baltimore, the blessing follows us.
The full essay from which this excerpted is online at Slate.com here Sunday morning coming down.

I have to acknowledge that King of Peace is probably more of the "hi and how are we all doing this morning" worship experience than of the nature of the transcendence of an Anglo-Catholic High Mass. I do know that in both styles of worship one meets God who does transcend our experience. But I sometimes have said that low church folks anticipate heaven more than high church folks, but that is probably because those in a high church tradition worship there each time they gather.

I think the trick for me is to open myself up to that experience of the God beyond experience when I come to worship. It's easy to get caught up in the who is there and what is going on, but also important to allow oneself to be present to the One who is there whose presence we can miss if we allow ourselves to be too busy to hear the still small voice of the divine.

peace,
Frank+
The Rev. Frank Logue, Pastor

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  • At 10/25/2007 7:06 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    There is something to be said for the tranquility of a High Mass. I had a difficult time opening myself up to God's voice last Sunday. It was so loud in the church before the service and during Communion. My conversations with God were once again interrupted by several conversations that could have been held in the entry hall before or after the service.

    It seems that reverence in the presence of God has taken a back seat to socializing in the worship area. I've noticed there is silence and there is reverence during the sacrament of Baptism. The Eucharist is a sacrament, too, we receive every week that allows each and every one of us to spend personal and intimate time with the Lord.

    Those who are old enough to know better might want to keep our discussions down to a quiet whisper at this time. I love each and every one of you in our congregation and I can't wait experience fellowship with you--in the entry hall. I love God too, and I would appreciate some time with Him without hearing the latest college football scores as I pray.

     
  • At 10/25/2007 7:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You're right. Church is about being with god and praying to him. Not just reciting prayers and then talking to our friends about football. So listen
    ladies and gentalmen, lets pray to god and not talk in church and disrupt other people. Lets talk in the social hall before and after mass.

     
  • At 10/25/2007 8:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Football? Something is wrong here, terribly wrong. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are on a team, but not with football. Church is for God and Jesus. Please remember that. Bless us all.

     
  • At 10/25/2007 8:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Lord have mercy. God is the one in the church that's important at the moment. I mean come on, FOOTBALL?!?!
    Whats wrong with that is during the mass, ecspecialy Communion. We need work on that.

     
  • At 10/25/2007 8:37 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    We do need work on that. Chat in the hall's BEFORE AND AFTER church mass. Not DURING. May God help us with this.

     
  • At 10/25/2007 8:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I think God doesn't like conversations during mass, ecspeically Communion. Let people talk to God. Football isn't God. Work on this.

     
  • At 10/25/2007 9:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Your right. I never thought about this. I will try to make a differance. So should you people. May God help us.

     
  • At 10/25/2007 9:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    May God help us with this problem. I have trouble talking to God as well. People do need silence during Communion so we can remember Christ our Lord. Whoever posted this post, may God bless you! :)

     

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9/09/2007

The highest act

worship at King of Peace
Worship is the highest act of which man is capable.
It not only stretches him
beyond all the limits of his finite self
to affirm the divine depth of mystery and holiness
in the living and eternal God,
but it opens him at the deepest level of his being
to an act which unites him most realistically with his fellow man.
-Samuel H. Miller (1935-1978)

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8/19/2007

Creation Work

The satined glass over the altar at King of Peace
Creation rhythms get inside us through the act of worship in place and time. Worship is the primary means by which we immerse ourselves in the rhythms and stories of God’s work, get a feel for proper work, creation work....

When we walk out of the place of worship we walk with fresh, recognizing eyes and a re-created, obedient heart into the world in which we are God’s image participating in God’s creation work.
-Eugene Peterson, Christ Plays in Ten Thousand Places

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8/08/2007

Why Bother with Church?

Worship on the beachEpiscopal worship service on the beach

If you live in Asbury Park, New Jersey it's not an either or choice between beach and church. You can have your prayer book and sand between your toes too. The New York Times reports,
worship on the beachThe altar is a tray for serving breakfast in bed. The pews are large towels or striped beach chairs. And instead of doodling on the program, distracted children can play with a bucket or bury a parent’s feet in the sand. On Saturdays in the summer, Trinity Church, an Episcopal congregation here, celebrates a beach Mass at 6 p.m., attracting up to 75 people...
The full story is online here: Sea, Sand, Sky and an Invitation to Worship.

In the sermon Why Are We Here? I told that our competition is not other churches, unless you are thinking of "Box Springs Baptist, Mattress Methodist, Pillow Presbyterian and my personal favorite, the Church of the Holy Comforter" which are ways to describe sleeping in on Sunday.

Father Steve offers a new video on why we should get out of bed on Sunday morning. It's a really well done look at the reasons not to attend Box Springs Baptist and the like:



In the same sermon referenced above, I said,
Sure, you can be a Christian without going to church. Peeking in the window at King of PeaceBut you can just barely be a Christian, and not very well. I know that sounds harsh, but Christianity is not about loving God alone. Jesus simplified all his teaching to “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind and soul and love your neighbor as yourself.” God and neighbor. They go together. And so there is no better way to worship than with your neighbor. We need each other. We need each other to bear one another’s burdens and share one another’s joys. We need each other, because it is so difficult to make any progress on your spiritual journey when you are out there on your own.
If that isn't inspiring enough, there is the religion column The dollar value of attending church or the one Why a non-believer may want a church.

We'll be worshipping tonight at 6:15 p.m. Not convenient? Try Saturdays at 6 p.m. and Sundays at 8:30 or 10 a.m.

What do you think? Why do you bother to go to church? Or if you don't, why do you skip the experience?

peace,
Frank+
The Rev. Frank Logue, Pastor

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  • At 8/08/2007 9:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    You know the Rec Center pool is not that far away from the church. If it's going to be 100 degrees, that might not be a bad idea.

     
  • At 8/08/2007 10:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The pool idea sounds great! Baptisms would be so much fun with everybody getting wet! Frank could bless the whole pool and all would swim in holy water! We could bring along a boom box for hymns...Oh, but then there are the gnats and mosquitos...insect repellent and sun block...floaties for the little ones...no air conditioning...where would we make the coffee?

     

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8/01/2007

How to Worship God

But an hour is coming, and now is,
when the true worshipers
will worship the Father in spirit and truth;
for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
—John 4:23

cartoon by Dave Walker

In our own ways, we often tell people of other denominations, "You worship God in your way and I will worship God in His."

In writing about people arguing over differing styles of worship, Joshua at his blog, Quaerite Dominum, shares how it bothers him for those who prefer high Anglo-Catholic worship (as he does) to make fun of those who like Contemporary Christian Music and praise bands. He writes the following parable,
Let’s say a little girl brought to her father a chicken-scratched picture she made at school. The picture, which is supposed to look like her father, is a bit lop-sided and she scribbled in the colours with crayon. She goes up to her father, climbs into his lap, and shows him the picture, saying, “Daddy, I made this for you! I love you, Daddy.”

Then big brother, who is a professional painter, enters the room and takes one look at the picture, then snatches it and rips it up, saying, “I could paint Father better. Your drawing is nasty.” Little sister begins to bawl and cry. Do you honestly think the Father would have been pleased? Oh no, he wouldn’t!
His full post is online here: Behold the Monstrous Regiment of Liturgical Divas.

From a humorous perspective, there is the earlier post here of Praise Music from a Hymn Perspective (and vice versa).

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4/29/2007

More than a feeling

Easter Sunday at King of Peace

The most common mistake Christians make in worship today is seeking an experience, rather than seeking God. They look for a feeling, and if it happens, they conclude that they have worshipped. Wrong. In fact, God often removes our feelings so we won't depend on them.

Seeking a feeling, even the feeling of closeness to Christ, is not worship.

Rick Warren (1954- )

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  • At 5/01/2007 8:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Wow! This one really hit home for me, Frank! So often I'm looking for that "experience" instead of letting God in. Great food for thought.

    -your sister-in-law and sister in Christ,
    Laurie

     

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3/16/2007

Counter-Cultural Worship

Methodist Bishop and noted preached William Willimon recently wrote,

kids singing in worship at King of Peace January 2007The modern world teaches us to ask, of every event and relationship, “Now what good will this do me?” The modern world teaches us to make ourselves the center of the world. We have no more important project than ourselves.

Christian worship is counter-cultural to all this. We do it, not primarily to “get something out of it,” but to give something to it. We do it because we are in love.

Try this example. You are walking hand-in-hand in the park on a beautiful spring day. At some point, you lean over and kiss the one with whom you are in love.

Now, if someone asks you, “Now what good does that do you? What good do you get out of it?” It would be stupid question to ask. Gestures like kissing, hugging, are the actions of lovers. We do it out of love. We do it, not “to get something out of it,” but rather to offer something to the one with whom we are in love. Christian worship is a lot like that.
The full text is posted at his blog here: Meeting and Being Met by God.


Mary's baptism January 6, 2007

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