Finding God
The paradox of the ministry indeed is that we find the God we want to give in the lives of the people to whom we want to give Him.—Henri Nouwen (1932-1996)
Labels: Lay ministry, ministry
Irenic. The word means peaceful. This web log (or blog) exists to create an ongoing, and hopefully peaceful, series of comments on the life of King of Peace Episcopal Church. This is not a closed community. You are highly encouraged to comment on any post or to send your own posts.
The paradox of the ministry indeed is that we find the God we want to give in the lives of the people to whom we want to give Him.—Henri Nouwen (1932-1996)
Labels: Lay ministry, ministry
It is worthwhile inquiring why the rich man saw Lazarus in Abraham's arms, and not in the company of some other righteous person. The reason is that Abraham was hospitable, and so the sight of Lazarus with Abraham was meant to reproach the rich man for his own inhospitality.
Abraham used to pursue even passers-by and drag them into his home, whereas the rich man disregarded someone lying in his own doorway.
Although he had within his grasp so great a treasure, such an opportunity to win salvation, he ignored the poor man day after day. He could have helped him but he failed to do so.
The patriarch was not like that but just the opposite. He would sit in his doorway and catch all who passed by. And just as a fisherman casting a net into the sea hauls up fish, yes, but also quite often gold and pearls, so Abraham whilst catching people in his net finished by catching angels, though strangely enough without knowing it.
Even Paul marvels at this and gives the advice: Remember to welcome strangers into your homes, for some by so doing have entertained angels without knowing it.
And he did well to say without knowing it, for if Abraham had welcomed his guests with such kindness because he knew who they were he would have done nothing remarkable.
He is praiseworthy only because, without knowing who the passers-by were and taking them to be simply human wayfarers, he yet invited them in with so much good will....
Anyone wishing to show kindness should not inquire into other people's lives, but has only to alleviate their poverty and supply their needs, as Christ commanded when he said: Imitate your Father in heaven, who makes his sun rise on good and bad alike, and sends rain on the just and the unjust.
Labels: Gospel reading, John Chrysostom
At 9/29/2007 10:23 AM, said…
In my sermon on this for tomorrow, I am quoting Jane Tomaine's St.Benedict's Toolbox in her chapter "Benedictine Hospitality: Hearts Overflowing with Love" in which she stakes a claim on hospitality as a justice issue. She says (p.128) "Hospitality says that the issues of the poor are our problem and that we must take steps for positive change in the lives of others. Hospitality is a call to action . . . We can be the voice that calls for justice and equity." Amen I say. Amen.
At 9/28/2007 8:42 AM, Fr. Steve Rice said…
At 9/28/2007 7:57 AM, said…
Every time we thought we must stop building because funds were lacking, someone has made it possible for us to go on. I think the Lord must want this place built.Officially named the Cathedral Church of St. Peter and Paul, it is called the National Cathedral as it has become the venue of choice for state events such as President Ronald reagan's funeral. Perhaps the nation's best known Episcopal church, the cathedral is dazzling, a real European-style cathedral built in America during the last century. The gothic architecture pulls the soul upward, with nooks and crannies that emphasize the mystery of God. While details like the famous Darth Vader gargoyle make it truly a product of our own times.
Labels: church, religion column
They say the layered earth rose up—Parker J. Palmer, in The Weavings Reader
Ancient rock leviathan
Trailing ages in its wake
Lifting earthmass toward the sun
And coursing water cut the rock away
To leave these many-storied walls Exposé of ages gone
Around this breathless emptiness
More wondorous far than earth has ever known
My life has risen layered too
Each day, each year in turn has left
Its fossil life and sediments
Evidence of lived and unlived hours
The tedium, the anguish, yes the joy
That some heart-deep vitality
Keeps preesing upward toward the day I die
And Spirit cuts like water through it all
Carving out this emptiness
So inner eye can see
The soaring height of canyon walls within
Walls whose very color, texture, form
Redeem in beauty all my life has been
The darkness and the light, the false, the true
While deep below the living waters run
Cutting deeper through my parts
To resurrect my gravebound heart.
Let yourself be plumbed to the depths, and you will realize that everyone is created for a presence. There, in your heat of hearts, in that place where no two people are alike, Christ is waiting for you. And there the unexpected happens.—Brother Roger of Taizé (1915-2005)
The place where God calls you to is the place where your deep gladness and the world's deep hunger meet.—Frederick Buechner (1926- )
Labels: quotes
In what ways should a pastor view their ministry?I disagree with the second point above and find something to like in all the rest.
- Ministry is your fourth priority after being a Christian, husband, and father.
- Ministry is your job, not your life.
- God rewards faithfulness, not just fruitfulness.
- Your salvation and righteousness are gifts from Jesus and not contingent upon your performance.
- If you do not Sabbath, God will impose a Sabbath upon you.
- A series of sprints, with nine natural breaks out of the pulpit, rather than a marathon.
- Jesus is the Senior Pastor and the church is His.
Labels: pastor, priesthood
At 9/25/2007 9:22 AM, said…
At 9/25/2007 2:23 PM, Loren said…
I find this pretty interesting as I contemplate leaving seminary and entering the next phase of my life. I think a job is something we have to do...ministry is something we get to do, and I do think that my call and my life are intertwined.
However, I disagree with number 1...I think being a husband and a father aren't really going to be that high up on my list of priorities... :)
At 9/25/2007 4:22 PM, said…
At 9/25/2007 6:54 PM, said…
At 9/25/2007 10:19 PM, The Bosom Serpent said…
How is the role of pastor different from the role of priest? I find that in the Orthodox tradition (at least my limited knowledge of it) the man named by my Bishop to serve in my parish is my Priest. Not that he isn't also my pastor but I believe his first calling is as Priest. I realize there may be a subtle differnce and I may be guilty of splitting hairs.
Which is more important being the pastor or being the priest?
At 9/26/2007 7:17 AM, King of Peace said…
Jim, success and failure are ultimately determined by faithfulness to God's call. If you have been faithful to what God is calling you to do, then that is a success, if not that is failure. That said, the church as instituion will look at the ABCs—attendance, buildings and contributions—as signs of health or unhealth, growth or decline. In The Episcopal Church the prime number looked at is ASA or avereage Sunday attendance. What one has to deal with is that good, faithful people doing all they know to do may not see visible signs of success. We have to trust that God is present in those circumstances as well.
November, from a scriptural perspective, the prists of the New Testament are 1) Temple priests in Jerusalem, 2) Jesus as our Great High Priest and 3) the kingdom of priests who are all Christians. The role we now term priest is the Greek word presbyteros. That role is primarily a sacramental one in the Anglican (episcopal), Orthodox and Catholic traditions so that the person is authorized by a bishop to administer the sacraments in a place in the bishops absence. Pastor is the Latin word for shepherd and is considered one aspect of a priest's role in a congregation. To some degree this is theological hairsplitting. To another, it is trying to find the right language to describe what we are doing and why. To use the terms as defined here, the sacramental role of leading the community in worship is more important, but as that role is so closely identified with shepherding that same flock, I don't think the two can actually be separated.
peace,
Frank+
The Rev. Frank Logue, Priest, Pastor, Vicar
At 9/24/2007 1:49 PM, jimmorrow said…
At 9/24/2007 3:25 PM, said…
I believe God is with the vicar and his friends drinking a beer. I believe God is with the person who tends the flowers at the church. I believe God is with the church's congregation and with the people on the streets, and especially the sinners.
This woman in the video needs to do some soul searching instead of judging everyone around her so harshly. How rude to call the vicar's collar a "dog collar". How rude to judge a congregation from the outward appearance of a church. And, if this woman goes back to drinking wine, she has nobody to blame but herself.
She's too full of herself and her self rightousness to have any room for God. If Jesus walked down the street I bet he would sit down and have a beer with the "sinners" or stop and smell the flowers in the church garden. I doubt he would be standing in the middle of the street judging and condemning like the woman in this video.
At 9/24/2007 3:59 PM, said…
First of all, from someone who claims to be a former Anglican, I can't believe she didn't recognize the shirt of a bishop. Bishops wear purple shirts while rectors, vicars and curates (all who are also priests) wear other colors, particularly black.
God IS with every one; particularly with the sinners who need him the most. And while the woman was so busy quoting scripture, she somehow missed, "Judge not lest ye be judged."
But as one of the favorite prayers at King of Peace goes, "Bless her, change me."
At 9/24/2007 4:06 PM, King of Peace said…
Nice old Anglican terms. They are used to denote the following:
Rector-the chief sacramental officer of a parish, called by the vestry (church board) with the agreement of the Bishop. Other clergy work not for the church, but for the rector and, for example, are expected to leave when the rector leaves.
Vicar-the priest in charge of a mission, which denotes a congregation financially dependent on the diocese. The Bishop is technically the rector of all missions and a vicar serves vicariously in place of the bishop.
Curate-once referred to a person charged with the cure (care) of souls in a parish. This term dates from a time when a rector would not necessarily be at their parish each week (see Pride and Prejudice). Now "curate" refers to an assistabt in a parish and generally applies to new hires out of seminary.
King of Peace is a mission of the Diocese of Georgia. We are fully self supporting and have to be so for one year before applying to change to parish status, which takes two consecutive diocesan conventions to ensure that we remain able to be self supporting. Therefore, my official job title is Vicar and will remain such until February of 2009.
peace,
the Rev. Frank Logue, Vicar
though not in my dog collar today as I take Mondays off except for when my email sends me a question from Jim. ;-)
At 9/24/2007 6:01 PM, said…
At 9/25/2007 1:29 AM, said…
I'd rather see Our Vicar on a street corner having a beer, than holed up inside the church or his house hiding it. I've seen Our Vicar have a glass of wine in public, and other than my significant memory skills, I didn't have another thought about it until I saw the video just now. Like the others said, I think she might want to go back to her bible and see who to leave the judgment up to. Every time you point your finger, you've always got 3 pointing right back at you...something to think about!
At 9/25/2007 2:27 AM, said…
At 9/25/2007 11:15 AM, said…
Gosh.... what next... hanging out with publicans and sinners? Turning water into wine? Surely God wouldn't be caught dead doing such things. And as for that biblical text about 'considering the lillies of the field'... well obviously it's a bad witness to put flowers outside a church. I mean.. what can creation teach anybody? Give them a tract and a God they can explain.
I, Victoria, give myself to our Lord Jesus Christ, to serve him for the rest of my life in company with my brothers and sisters in the Third Order of the Society of Saint Francis, according to the Principles of the Order, seeking to spread the knowledge and love of Christ, to promote the spirit of love and harmony as the family of God, and to live joyfully a life of simplicity and humble service after the example of Saint Francis.
Labels: Francis of Assisi, TSSF
If we nourish our lives—Teresa of Calcutta (1910-1997)
with the Eucharist,
it will be easy for us
to see Christ
in that hungry one next door,
the one lying in the gutter,
that alcoholic man we shun,
our husband or our wife,
or our restless child.
For in them, we will recognize
the distressing disguises
of the poor:
Jesus in our midst.
Labels: Eucharist, Mother Teresa, quotes
the children of this age are more shrewd in dealing with their own generation than are the children of light. And I tell you, make friends for yourselves by means of dishonest wealth so that when it is gone, they may welcome you into the eternal homes.Then Jesus clases saying, "You cannot serve God and wealth."
Jesus and the Rascal! That's what this morning's gospel reading is about. The difficult to interpret story of the seemingly unethical servant who is praised by Jesus. But hidden in the story is the person who knew that it was important to act, to risk and respond to the moment. How often our life of faith is cold and calculated, almost without life because we have it so well planned out.You may also find meaningful, the Rev. James Kavanaugh's short refelction on this passage, The Long Run, in which he compares this passage to a recent break in and robbery at his house.
In the parable this morning Jesus is urging us to respond to the moment, to jump at the chance to follow, to trust that God's goodness is sufficient. At the very heart of stewardship is this understanding - a trust in the abundance and goodness of God - how else do we dare to offer anything to our God if we only have a God of scarcity.
In this fascinating parable this morning Jesus want us to respond as whole-heartedly to our God and to invest as much of ourselves into the kingdom of God as the unethical servant does to save himself. Remember Jesus' closing words: No slave can serve two masters. The slave will either hate one and love the other or be devoted to one and despise the other. You can only serve one God. May our hearts trust in our abundant and gracious God alone.
Labels: Gospel reading
We often confuse unconditional love with unconditional approval. God loves us without conditions but does not approve of every human behavior.-Henri Nouwen, (1932-1996) Bread For the Journey, 1996
God doesn’t approve of betrayal, violence, hatred, suspicion, and all other expressions of evil, because they all contradict the love God wants to instill in the human heart. Evil is the absence of God’s love.
Labels: Henri Nouwen, quotes
At 9/21/2007 8:32 PM, said…
What experts label “adolescent risk taking” is really baby boomer risk taking. It’s true that 30 years ago, the riskiest age group for violent death was 15 to 24. But those same boomers continue to suffer high rates of addiction and other ills throughout middle age, while later generations of teenagers are better behaved. Today, the age group most at risk for violent death is 40 to 49, including illegal-drug death rates five times higher than for teenagers.What does it mean to honor your father and mother, when you are acting more responsibly than they? The question is serious. I do think that one can honor a Mom addicted to crack or a Dad who likes to hang out in bars until late into the night. But honoring parents in these situations is different from how Beaver and Wally might have honored Mr. and Mrs. Cleaver on the 50's show Leave it to Beaver. Chances of actually sitting down your parents and talking to them about the problems are very slim.
Labels: teens
At 9/20/2007 9:16 AM, said…
I agree, I think all teens need a person that they can look up to. I also believe that it needs to start well before they are teens. If and when they do have a problem, they already have that connection and trust.
My daughter told me yesterday she is looking for that person now, needing someone other than me to talk to. We have always been able to talk, but I also understand that she needs someone else also. I’m OK with that as long as she is talking to someone.
Her question to me was how? How do I find this person and know that I can trust them to just be there and listen. I was lost at that point, I will openly admit that I never gave her that opportunity as a young person to find that adult that she new would be there. I was also a little sad, that she never found an adult to look up to.
I am working on getting that connection now with my little ones. It is very important that they have good strong people to look up to.
At 9/20/2007 11:05 AM, said…
Rhonda,
You are a wonderful mother! I can tell by your caring words and by the fact that your daughter feels that she can be honest with you.
Parents and priests, I believe, have the most difficult jobs in the world. We are only human, and none of us are perfect. But, we have to remember that there's no time like the present to fullfill an opportunity. Forgive the regrets of your past and use this time to help your daughter find somebody to talk to. Maybe now is the time for you to be that person for her. Maybe now is the time for you to guide her to the right person who will be supportive...to both of you.
I have the same problem with my kids. Their dad spends most of his nights and weekends out. It's interesting, though; as much as I steer them towards "appropriate" role models, they still look up to their dad the most. I guess it's about honoring and loving him regardless of his parenting skills. They don't seem to compare him to priests, scout leaders, teachers, etc...Maybe my kids are able to see the good qualities in all of them, including their dad, and hopefully utilize them in their lives.
Sometimes we can learn so much from our own children.
At 9/20/2007 11:41 AM, said…
Anonymous,
Thank you!
Yes we can learn a lot from our children, like how to forgive. I’m working on this one, I wish her dad were around to be that role model for her, she needs a good male influence in her life. After he passed away I told myself that I was all she needed, but I know now that’s not true. I can only do so much and at times we all need help.
I am very lucky; I have been blessed with wonderful children.
It was in 1870 that Joseph Jefferson was rebuffed in arranging for the funeral of his friend, George Holland, an actor. Told that there was a little church around the corner where "they do that sort of thing," Jefferson fervently exclaimed, "God Bless the Little Church Around the Corner" and that famous benediction has echoed down through the years. This brought about a close relationship with the people of the theater which has continued to this day. It also brought about the founding, in 1923, of the Episcopal Actors' Guild, which carries on an active program at its national headquarters in the Guild Hall.The Episcopal Actors Guild has had notable actors as officers including Basil Rathbone, Tallulah Bankhead, Joan Fontaine, Rex Harrison and Charlton Heston.
Labels: church
At 9/19/2007 6:50 AM, said…
At 9/19/2007 10:38 AM, King of Peace said…
Up until recently, actors were generally viewed as disreputable. And so an actor, who had no church affiliation would not easily find a church that would bury him (or her). This is quite ancient. In an interesting text from early Christianity, Hippolytus wrote The Apostolic Tradition. In it he gave counsel on who could and coule not be baptized saying in part:
They will inquire concerning the works and occupations of those are who are brought forward for instruction. If someone is a pimp who supports prostitutes, he shall cease or shall be rejected. If someone is a sculptor or a painter, let them be taught not to
make idols. Either let them cease or let them be rejected. If someone is an actor or does shows in the theater, either he shall cease or he shall be rejected. If someone teaches children (worldly knowledge), it is good that he cease. But if he has no (other) trade, let him be permitted.
The full text of Hippolyus is here The Apostolic Tradition and the part quoted above is from a larger section found at number 16.
peace,
Frank+
At 9/19/2007 10:54 AM, said…
At 9/19/2007 11:49 AM, said…
At 12/27/2007 12:11 PM, said…
So, I'll just say that while young men are watching tough men compete, the reason they don't go to most churches is because they could take the pastor and can't respect a guy in a lemon-yellow sweater, sipping decaf and talking about his feelings.I ran across this by way of a response from from Henry's Web which said,
If you determine whether someone is worth listening to based on whether you could take him in a fight, if you despise someone because they wear a lemon-yellow sweater, sip decaf, or talk about their feelings, then you need to seriously reexamine both your intellectual and your spiritual life.He might be right, but the point still holds. Even though I don't own a lemon yellow sweater and I wouldn't wear one if you bought it for me, I wouldn't last as long as a bull rider in the rodeo if you put me in the ring on The Ultimate Fighter. I did once show a video clip in a sermon from the movie Fight Club, but I am quite sure that's not the same thing.
Labels: pastor, priesthood
At 9/18/2007 6:53 AM, said…
At 9/18/2007 7:18 AM, said…
At 9/18/2007 8:33 AM, said…
I kind of like the beer test, though I regard it as a bit incomplete. Your further statement specifying someone you would want to spend time with outside of church, clears that up, however, as long as we realize that there are many different ways in which people want to spend time outside of church, and various people with whom they would like to do so.
With that proviso--good response!
At 9/18/2007 9:21 AM, said…
At 9/18/2007 10:10 AM, The Bosom Serpent said…
As much as I hate to admit it you may be on to something. You and I have supped many times together and I feel very comfortable having a conversation with you. We even agree to disagree when you are wrong and I am right (especially on weighty theological matters). I have often wondered at the unqualified success of King of Peace. Your personality and approachability are part of the answer.
Did I just talk about my feelings? AAAARRRGGHHH! Time for aikido!
At 9/18/2007 1:10 PM, said…
When I changed churches, I chose King of Peace because I knew so many wonderful and happy people who attended there. I knew that it had to have something to do with the pastor. I found it to be true!
Funny thing: I did drink a beer with Frank and Victoria long before I ever found myself in need of changing churches! You're definitely on to something here!!!!
At 9/18/2007 4:09 PM, said…
At 9/18/2007 4:34 PM, said…
At 9/19/2007 6:33 AM, King of Peace said…
Wow, I used to lov Yoo Hoo and hadn't thought of that sugery chocolate milk in years.
As to PBR, I think it is like putting the right wine with the right food. In this case, what beer would go with The Ultimate Fighter? It seemed like a natural choice.
But as Henry said, there are many different ways to hang out, and they certainly don't all involve malt beverages, or even distilled ones.
peace,
Frank+
At 9/21/2007 4:47 PM, said…
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At 9/17/2007 7:04 AM, said…
Well, I was at the 10 am service and I would offer two explanations for why no one mentioned your unzipped pants: 1)They, like me, don't tend to look at people's crotches; and 2)it just wasn't noticeable. Because, had I noticed, I would have quietly let you know. So, I deduce that it just wasn't noticeable.
At 9/17/2007 7:05 AM, said…
At 9/17/2007 11:19 PM, said…
May all your expectations be frustrated.
May all your plans be thwarted.
May all your desires be withered into nothingness.
That you may experience
the powerlessness and the poverty of a child
and sing and dance in the love
of God the Father, the Son and the Spirit.
Labels: Henri Nouwen, prayer, quotes
At 9/16/2007 1:07 PM, said…
Which one of you, having a hundred sheep and losing one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness and go after the one that is lost until he finds it? When he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders and rejoices. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, `Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep that was lost.' Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.Dylan has an intriguing take on this story at her lectionary blog, where she ends the post for this weekend with,
you might have heard a few sheep quietly noting the shepherd's absence and wondering where the shepherd had gone, as one silhouetted figure made its way toward the horizon and the stray ... and some wolf howls echoed in the distance.We find Jesus ever heading out into the night looking to snatch yet another sheep from the wolves. Sometimes in my job as pastor, I am called to head into similar situations that I hate to characterize as it might seem like I am talking about things best left private. But I get glimpses into lives torn by drug and alcohol abuse, violence and death, and in these instances I am called to bring the light of Christ into a dark place, bringing the love of the shepherd to sheep well away from the herd.
Three questions:
Where is the shepherd?
Where are the ninety-nine?
If one sheep is with the shepherd and ninety-nine aren't, who's really the stray?
Labels: Gospel reading
At 9/15/2007 10:00 AM, said…
A generation ago, Camden County was a much more stable place. The people you went to school with, worked with and went to church with were the grandchildren of the people with whom your grandparents had done the same. There were exceptions, but mostly you knew the measure of a man or woman because you knew their people and their people knew yours.The full text of the religion column is online here: The Value of Staying Put.
Today, Camden County is a much more transient community. By necessity, many people leave our county every year due to a military or other job transfer, while many others arrive. There is nothing to bemoan here. It is a fact of life.
Yet, we can let the transient nature of the community effect other areas of life. We can come to look at the greener grass on the other side of the fence and long for those pastures, rather than our own.
For example, someone can look at his husband or her wife and think that it is time for the upgrade. The struggles in the marriage can seem like too much and it would be easier to let the marriage die and then move on to later find another person who doesn’t have all those faults of your spouse. The only problem with that plan is whoever you marry next will still be married to you.
This is just one example, but the same can be true for friendships, jobs, church, and even a club or volunteer organization. In time, any relationship may seem like it needs to come to an end. First, I should acknowledge that this is true. If your spouse is abusing you or your children. Set down the newspaper now and set about leaving. If your job is neither fulfilling nor meeting your family’s financial needs, then finish this column and flip back to the classifieds.
But for the rest of us, who are just grumpy, but not abused, there may be something else going on here.
Labels: religion column
At 9/14/2007 10:38 AM, said…
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At 9/15/2007 8:49 AM, said…
The biblical doctrine of God’s wrath is rooted in the doctrine of God as the good, wise and loving creator, who hates — yes, hates, and hates implacably — anything that spoils, defaces, distorts or damages his beautiful creation, and in particular anything that does that to his image-bearing creatures. If God does not hate racial prejudice, he is neither good nor loving.—N.T. Wright
If God is not wrathful at child abuse, he is neither good nor loving. If God is not utterly determined to root out from his creation, in an act of proper wrath and judgment, the arrogance that allows people to exploit, bomb, bully, and enslave one another, he is neither loving, nor good, nor wise.
Labels: N.T. Wright
At 9/13/2007 7:29 AM, said…
I don't agree. The God I worship is full of love. Love is the opposite of hate. I think that God is sorrowful and hurt in the face of these adversities. If he were hateful or wrathful, then we would not be dealing with abuse, prejudic, exploitation, etc..He would have already driven them away with his wrath, just as we humans are trying to do with our hatred and wrath. So far, I see that doesn't work.
At 9/13/2007 11:21 AM, said…
To quote Frank, "I think it's more complicated than that."
I don't think love and hate is an either/or choice. God, in his love, has provided a way to counter the evil in this world. He loves us enough to allow us the freedom to choose - and that includes the freedom to choose to do evil.
When my children are disobedient, I don't hate them - I still love them more than my own life - but I may be angry about the things they do. I don't behave hatefully or maliciously to them, but correcting them is still necessary. Sometimes that means punishment, and sometimes it means that they reap the consequences of their own behavior.
Unfortunately, in our human condition, we associate hate with visiousness and maliciousness. I believe God's example is a different than the words we use to express hate and anger. They're just the closest language that we possess. For us, hate and love make no sense.
Gratefully, God hated what happened to his creation so much that he sent Jesus to rescue us. Once again, God did not behave as people do, but did something unexpected and holy.
In some prisons, the chaplains have recently dismantled libraries that had thousands of texts collected over decades, bought by the prisons, or donated by churches and religious groups.The purge is a post-911 move to throw out any materials which could lead to the prison system becoming a recruiting area for militant Islamic groups as wells as militant fundamentalist in any religion.
“There’s no need to get rid of literally hundreds of thousands of books that are fine simply because you have a problem with an isolated book or piece of literature that presents extremism.”The article outlines the disparity in the selection of the permitted materials so that there is a lot of material by some authors and none by others even though none of the works in question could be viewed as advocating violence. The bias includes 80 of the Jewish books all coming from one orthodox publishing house.
Labels: news item
At 9/12/2007 4:33 PM, said…
Isn't this censorship? The unAmerican in me has a hard time feeling "sorry for" the prisoners, had they not gotten themselves into prison they could go to any public library (or church's library) and check these books out...but still, this is one of the craziest things yet. I won't be surprised if the prisoners riot, and then the people who took the books out will only have themselves to blame.
At 9/12/2007 5:16 PM, said…
I don't think it is considered cencorship because of the separation of church and state. I could be wrong. I do know that there are public schools that don't allow religious books in their libraries, other than factual, because of the separation of church and state.
It is sad that extremists have us terrorized to this point.
The night before I got married my brother sat me down in an Indian restaurant and (too many beers) got me to make a list on a napkin of why this girl was the right person for me to marry. One side of the napkin had all the pros and the other side the cons.I certainly find comparing faith to love to be not a stretch at all and quite helpful as the essence of the Christian faith is love. So quoting an atheist philosopher or not, this agnostic had me intrigued. Humphrys goes on to write in the the Times article,
What was fascinating about the list was that nothing I could write down – kind, pretty, warm, sexy, etc – could ever add up to “I love her”. To marry and make the love commitment is the nearest thing to faith I know because it is something done with the same degree of risk.
Would a person who needed everything fully evidenced and rationally demonstrated ever be in a position to say, ‘I love you’? Couldn’t [an atheist] make a case for love being a fiction, a function of human need, a function of biology and selfish genes? He may have many useful and persuasive things to say but there is something deeply mistaken about thinking love is simply reducible to the chemistry of the brain.
Love, like faith, is to make more of a commitment than one can prove. But there is a truth to it that I won’t—indeed can’t—back away from. Of course, there is much to say about all of this and I can think of a dozen reasons why faith and love might look different. But the truth of both is, for me, found in the poetry, not in the science.
This is not an intellectual game. Even if we know what is true – and we don’t – you cannot reduce life to a set of provable realities. Humanity is too complex for that. In the end, it comes down to whether the world would be a better place without religion; and that is a matter of judgment, not certainty.Here is a man unable to prove God's existence to himself, but quite comfortable in seeing how that belief in God has helped millions of people lived more noble lives, rather than deluded ones.
Yes, we loathe and fear the fanaticism that leads to a man strapping a bomb to his body and blowing up other human beings. But we should also fear a world in which the predominant values are materialism and consumerism, and the greatest aspiration of too many children is to become a “celebrity”. The existence of religion can offer some balance in a society obsessed with image, which turns vacuity into virtue....
As for the fanatics – religious or secular – history suggests they succeed only to the extent that we allow ourselves to be defeated by our own irrational fear. For every fanatic there are countless ordinary, decent people who believe in their own version of a benevolent God and wish no harm to anyone. Many of them regard it as their duty to try to make the world a better place.
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At 9/11/2007 2:32 PM, said…
I'm not sure if my experience is a leap of faith, but I did receive a gift from God that sealed my faith.
Up until a couple of years ago, I believed in God simply because I was afraid not to. I attended church regularly and prayed, but I never really felt anything or knew if God was actually with me, listening.
One particular evening, I attended a rosary for a dying friend. The church was packed with his loving friends and family. After the rosary, he got up to speak. Even though he was dying, his faith was incredible, strong and unshaken. At that moment, something came over me and I felt the Holy Spirit as if I could reach out and touch Him. I was completely speechless for three days after. My priest at that time said that it was holiness recognizing itself, and that's why I was rendered quiet.
Since that moment, I am able to recognize the hand of God working in my life and the lives of others every single day. I don't think I lept into faith, but was drawn into it by His loving touch.
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At 9/11/2007 4:53 PM, said…
I wasn't searching...I was on my knees begging! I even wrote letters to Him and left them on the altar--everyday!!! I couldn't even be sure that He was there.
I think when I stopped demanding what I wanted and sat quietly and opened my heart, I was able to feel Him. I knew that He had been there all along. I was simply blinded by me and my demands and too much other stuff!
I don't believe you have to search, just sincerely make yourself available to Him and He'll let you know He's there.
That same priest told me that he no longer felt the Holy Spirit like he once had, and the same thing happened to Mother Teresa. Maybe that's the leap of faith--knowing that you are not abandoned and continuing in His name when you no longer feel Him around.
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At 9/11/2007 10:31 AM, said…
I bet you all had a wonderful time.
For all of you who are a part of the King of Peace family, be encouraged that the power if the Holy Spirit is very evidently with you--through your own lives, through your corporate lives and through us in the community. May God continue to bless and keep you all.
With love,
Jim the Methodist
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At 9/10/2007 7:14 AM, said…
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In our gospel teaching today, we hear that “large crowds were traveling with Jesus.” If Jesus were a good church pro-grammer, he would have dis- patched some of the apostles to get everyone’s name, phone number, and home address. He would have made sure everyone felt welcome. Perhaps he would have fretted over his sermons, making sure that each one was a practical, uplifting message that the crowd would come back for again and again. If they were singing psalms, he would have made sure the tunes were easy and appealing to the largest group possible.The full text of his sermon is here Sermons that Work.
Jesus wasn’t a good church programmer. This is because Jesus wasn’t calling crowds; he was calling disciples. Jesus wasn’t concerned with being popular; he was concerned with helping people transform their lives. Jesus knew that no matter the size of the crowd, it was all temporal anyway. It didn’t matter in the larger scheme. Jesus was leading people toward eternity, not temporal things like material success.
When Jesus sees the crowds, his instinct is not to wow them. His instinct is to make each person aware of the cost of being his disciple. It is this awareness of the journey that brings about transformation. He tells the crowd that unless they can detach completely from everything they are holding onto emotionally and physically, they can never really be his disciples. He tells them – and us – that we have to detach from our family systems, from our very lives as we know them. We have to be ready to take up a cross.
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At 9/07/2007 2:13 PM, said…
Two teams of British scientists had applied to Britain's Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority (HFEA) for permission to create what are known in Britain as cytoplastic hybrids, or cybrids, in order to overcome a shortage of donated human eggs.That's where I feel unenlightened. I certainly want relief for persons suffering from Alzheimer's, Lou Gehrig's and Parkinsons's. Who wouldn't? But I wonder about the cost of help and what the unintended consequences might be. The article goes on to say:
The process involves injecting human DNA into an animal egg cell from which the nucleus has been removed.
Researchers hope to use the hybrid embryos, which must be destroyed after 14 days, which would create stem cells. The stem cells could be used to help find new medical treatments for diseases such as Alzheimer's, Lou Gehrig's, and Parkinson's.
Scientists have said they understand that the idea of the process — which would create a hybrid embryo that is 99.9 percent human and 0.1 percent animal — might be shocking to some people. But Dr. Stephen Minger of Kings College London says the public should not be alarmed.Britain's Times online also features a Question and Answer on the issue.
"What we do when we take an animal egg, is we remove the nucleus from the egg. We remove not only the genetic identity but we remove the species identity. What makes a cow egg a cow is its nuclear DNA. And we take that out — it's no longer a cow," Minger says.
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At 9/06/2007 10:43 AM, said…
I think you hit the nail on the head with the word "ethically". Doctors are supposed to do no harm. If you believe that life is created by God, then you know that only God can play God and this isn't a thing we have any place meddling in. Disease has a way of working it's way out. Maybe we should put our focus into making medicines and treatment affordable to all, or even budget for medicines like we do our cell phones. I can think of at least 5 people I know who complain about a $60 prescription, yet willingly hand over $100/month for their phone service. How come a church isn't supposed to turn a profit, but life sustaining care can? Is it capitilism or greed? So many questions only raise more questions!
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At 9/30/2007 3:42 PM, jimmorrow said…
amen.
thank you.
there is no glory here, only complete surrender. the paradox.
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